The.280 is not a 7mm mag, any more than a 7mm rem mag is a 7mm STW. It is thus almost a cult cartridge, supported by a relatively small group who worship at its shrine. I normally hunt between 100-200 yards but want the ability to reach out and touch something as well. Inzwischen eine der bekanntesten US-Magnumpatronen, führen vor allem von Jägern die 7 mm Remington Magnum, die eine im Vergleich zur 7x64 gesteigerte Leistung und gestrecktere Flugbahn haben wollen. Ultra Mag.) I am going to use this new rifle for general hunting. And Oh Ya, the 280 Ackley Looks cooler too! I love the 7mm. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). The .280 Remington shoots about as flat as the .270 Winchester. More Guns. The 7mm Magnum has a reputation for accuracy that the .280 doesn't share. the 7mm Remington Magnum is the most popular magnum cartridge in the world for a reason. We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test. I would go with the 7mm Remington Magnum, just because of the ammo/brass problem. The 7mm/.284-inch bore diameter is considered—along with the uber-American .30 caliber—to be one of the best all-around choices for a big-game hunter who wants just one rifle. The 280 AI rifle cartridge combines the physical size of the 280 Remington with the ballistic performance of the powerful 7mm Rem. By Ron Spomer. I think it is the ultimate smaller big game caliber. I actually saw one blowup from this little mistake. Ackley would improve cartridges as small as the .22 Hornet and .218 Bee, up through the .30-30 and .30-’06, up to the .338-’06, with his own designs running up to the .475 Ackley Magnum. The 7mm Remington Magnum was introduced in 1962 along with the new Remington Model 700. Neck: 8.0mm 5. .300 Win Mag vs 7mm Rem Mag: Rifle Selection. 7mm Remington Magnum (7.2x64mm) 1. It is quite easy to see that the 7mm Remington Magnum case is considerable larger than the .280 Ackley Improved, and with velocities running this close, you can infer that the .280 Ackley is a much more efficient design. Bullet: 7.2mm 4. Kenny Jarrett saw the wisdom of the cartridge long ago, and in addition to the Nosler and Hornady loads, Federal has just announced that they’ve added the cartridge to their lineup this year. Ateam: I have Hunted with both a 280 Remington and a 7mm Remington Magnum for a LONG time now. Ackley himself said the .280 was “itself a very good cartridge and one of maximum capacity for best results with a 7mm bore.” He felt the 7mm Remington Magnum was an overbore design. The difference is minimal, much like the comparison between the .308 and .30-06, and with the proper shot … Ackley’s designs. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. Hunting. Hunters lined up to buy Big Green’s hot new metric while the .280 was largely forgotten. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. Posts: 4,858. zip code 59602. This question developed in the (recent) past between a friend and I. The 7mm Rem Mag is a fine cartridge but, in my opinion, is not a huge improvement over the .280 Rem in a bolt action rifle with a 24-inch barrel. Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight: Recoil energy: Recoil velocity.17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5: 0.2: n/a.17 Hornet (20 at 3650) 8.5: 0.6: 2.0.17 Rem. Despite initial hype sales weren’t fantastic, and some consumers got confused. It wouldn't even fit in the chamber. However, I also feel the .280 Ackley Improved suffers from ‘not-enough-rifles’ syndrome, though it seems that is beginning to change. Here we have a pair of all-around 7mm cartridges which may be closer in performance than you think. The 280 AI is not the equal of a 7MM Rem Mag. The ‘Ackley Improved’ cartridges have a fervent, if small, following in the hunting and shooting community. The only ammo you can buy for it will be labeled 280 Remington unless it's old stock. Mag. Mag. Gear . but with much less recoil and powder. There is a wide array of 7mm contenders, from the effective 7x57mm Mauser to the new 7mm WSM and 7mm Remington SAUM. Campfire Guide . The 7mm Rem Mags are hard on barrels as are the 7mm RSAUMs. Since it uses a much larger case diameter, most rifle magazines will hold more .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, or .280 AI cartridges than 7mm Remington Magnum cartridges. Mag. The .280 has spent most of its life pinched between the popular .270 and the 7mm Remington Magnum, and it competes against several other commercial 7mms as well: the blazing fast 7mm STW and 7mm Remington Ultra Mag and the low-recoiling 7mm-08 chief among them. However, it was introduced in a different time, when the ascendancy of the bolt action wasn’t as clear as it is today. Remington also simultaneously released the now-famous Model 700 rifle; the two fit like a glove, and while I don’t feel the 7mm Remington stole much of the thunder of the .300 Winchester Magnum, which came along the next year, it certainly shoved the .264 Winchester Magnum off the stage. It has never had enough sales to support an extensive variety of factory loads, yet those who use it generally swear by it. The belt is irrelevant, especially in a good rifle like a Cooper. Will it unseat the 7mm Remington Magnum? Rifling Twist: 1:10 3. Based on the .30-06 case necked down to take a 7mm, or .284-inch bullet, the cartridge was introduced in 1957. That's all I can think of off the top of my head Rifling Twist: 1:9 to 1:10 3. But nobody seemed to care. SAUM, 7-30 Waters, 7mm-08 Rem., 7x64mm Brenneke, .284 Win., .280 Rem., 7mm Rem. KJG Munition. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? The .280 Remington retains the gradual taper and gentle shoulder of the .30-06, and even with the best loads will lag a bit behind the 7mm Remington Magnum. I like the 280 AI from a case design standpoint. Latest. Corbett took man-eating tigers, Bell collected hundreds of pounds of ivory, and those are just two examples of the famous hunters; in the hands of the colonialists, the 7mm bore diameter put meat on the table for decades. Mag. Realistically, one could split the difference and choose a .280 and have the best of most worlds-but it’s pretty difficult to love the .270, the .30-06, and the .280! Today, the .280 … (7x57mm, 7mm WSM, 7mm Rem. Fans of the .270 stayed with the .270, fans of the .30-06 stuck to the .30-06 while 7mm fans chose either the compact 7mm08 or the highly emphatic 7mm Remington Magnum or the later 7mmWSM. Whether under the metric moniker, or under the .275 Rigby name, that cartridge put a whole lot of animals in the salt. vs. .300 Win. That's just another inigma to me. In 1980 the designation went back to .280 Remington, and it keeps rolling along, never a superstar but always a solid performer. Among them have been some of America’s most astute riflemen. This was fixed many years ago. Timing was perfect, as both were conducive to period trends by U.S. shooters and hunters, and sales soared. This project was cancelled at the last minute, but there are a handful of rifles out there with a 7mm-06 roll mark. We've got you covered.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. The 280 is basically a 7mm-06 if that helps you think about the cartridges potential. It shoots flatter than the .30-06, so is probably an ideal compromise between the two, at least on game up to elk in size. However, it was introduced in a different time, when the ascendancy of the bolt action wasn’t as clear as it is today. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. Plinker Said it well! But I have used the cartridge a fair amount over the years. On a couple of other points that people have brought up in posts: Norma is not going to produce .280 AI ammunition. Posts: 4,858. zip code 59602. Some extremely knowledgeable riflemen will continue to choose the .280, but there’s another more casual group that needs to give it a look. in single-shots and in bolt-actions it Does Not take a back seat to the .270 Win'; nor does it take a back seat to the .308 Winchester in any area, from what i can see. Campfire Guide. So, which comes out on top? My Model 110 rifle is light and accurate, and feeds like a dream in spite of the 40-degree shoulder. vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. R. Joined: Dec 2003. If you reload, and you are reloading for hunting, maybe you want to get another 7 mag. Somewhere in between are the 7-30 Waters, 7mm-08 Remington, 7x64 Brenneke, .284 Winchester, .280 Remington, and the standard length 7mm Remington and 7mm Weatherby magnums. The best non-magnum here, the.280 Remington demonstrated its greatest feature: balance. It is based on just one of several “7mm-06” wildcats, others including the .280 Ackley Improved and 7mm JRS. Almost needless to say, the cartridge has never let me down. Yet, for now, the wide variety of 7mm Rem. If I were to convert one of the 7MM Mauser's to 7MM express (280 Rem), what would make the most sense to use, one of the 22 incher's or the 29"? Old School Is The New Cool: Traditional Bowhunting. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. So I don’t. Just shot my 280 last week with 175 Bergers and @ 2850 fps AND 1/2" MOA it's a WINNER. The .280 was never a big seller despite a long list of tangible advantages over the .270 and the ’06. In the Kimber the action for the 280 ai is the 84l. By Chuck Hawks . Remington renamed the cartridge in late 1978 to 7mm-06 Remington but just before the end of the year they renamed it again calling it the 7 mm Express in an attempt to increase sales. I would say this is the best kept secret: a 7mm cartridge with more boiler room than the 7-08 Rem and less barrel wear and recoil than the 7mm Rem Mag. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. Along with lots of choices for ammunition, there is an abundance of great hunting rifles produced by nearly every big firearms manufacturer chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: [email protected], For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:[email protected], You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. Only negative is I can't buy ammo for her @ Walmart. I think it is the ultimate smaller big game caliber. Wer seit Jahren die Bildzeitung liest und Abends die Tagesschau sieht ist gut … Mag., 7mm Weatherby Mag., .275 H&H Mag., 7mm Dakota, 7mm STW and 7mm Rem. Royce. w/ less cost/recoil. Current factory loads aren’t any hotter than any other American factory loads, but they are pretty darned impressive. For longer ranges I prefer the extra 200-300fps the 7mm RM provides. One of the barrels, a new old stock, is 29". Now, that might not seem like a whole lot, and the .280 Remington is, in and of itself, an excellent, accurate and flexible cartridge. I have shot and owned several 300s but about a year ago I started shooting a 280. The unsupported case head ruptured and ruined the gun. Steve Hornady of Hornady Manufacturing has used it to take the majority of the mountain game he loves to hunt. I have owned both and while the .280 AI can come close to the 7mm Magnum it isn't one. In 1979 they did rename it to 7mm Express Remington, with both rifles and ammo on the market for a brief period. Yet it has never been and probably never will be anywhere close to as popular as either… nor is it anywhere near as popular as the 7mm Remington Magnum. I use the 7 STW. I have killt Bull Elk, Mule Deer, Antelope, Whitetailed Deer, Mt. I have been using a 140g bullet and I have had great results with accuracy. Parker O. Ackley was a gunsmith who developed a reputation for improving the design of a good number of our classic cartridges by removing body taper or increasing the shoulder angle, or both, in order to give greater case capacity. October 2, 2019. I will use it in the midwest for Whitetail and out west for Mule Deer and Elk. Both are excellent cartridges. It was Winchester who brought a trio of 2.50-inch magnums on the scene in the 1950s, in .458-inch, .338-inch and .264-inch, Norma brought out a .308-inch variety in 1960, and Remington brought out the 7mm in 1962. At one point there was a move to rename it the 7mm-06 Remington, with hotter loads. Maybe target shooters shunned the .280 and it never got a chance to prove itself. It took until 1962, when Remington released their 7mm Magnum, for this design to catch on, but it caught like wildfire. Realistically, the damage was probably already done. Mag., doesn’t need a .280, but if you are looking for a cartridge with accuracy, reach, power, and manners, there are few better choices than the .280 Remington. By the mid 1960's the .280 was available in all of Remington's action configurations however the cartridge still failed to gain attention. However, I love the .270 Winchester for its flat-shooting capabilities in open country…and I love the .30-06 for its heavier bullets and tremendous versatility. I was thinking of having an array of 7MM's. The Contestants. Neck: 8.6mm 5. The 7 Rem Mag is over bore. Conceptually think of the 7mm Rem Mag as a .338 Win Mag necked down to 7mm. Mag. It is the favorite hunting cartridge of Jim Carmichel, longtime Shooting Editor at Outdoor Life, used for an amazing variety of game. The Union Sportsmen’s Alliance is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization with a mission to unite the union community through conservation to preserve North America’s outdoor heritage. I have a Remington .280. By 2000, much of the popularity of the .280 Remington had once again waned. It truly does combine some of the best attributes and capabilities of both great cartridges-and that’s saying quite a lot! Geschichte Allgemeines. by Philip Massaro - ? I like the 280 AI from a case design standpoint. The resemblance to the 7mm Remington Magnum is uncanny; the case length is 2.50 inches, the base diameter and belt is the same, but the .275 H&H has a bit more body taper than does the 7mm Remington Magnum. Mag. Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? That's why I have two 280 AI's and sold my last 7mm mag. Maximale Auslasstung eines Standart Systems mit den Energiewerten fast einer 7mm Rem Magnum. Like Steve Hornady and Jim Carmichel, I’ve taken it sheep hunting, and it’s well-suited to that role as well. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) … These things are correct, and yet the cartridge has never been especially popular. Enjoy whatever choice you make. Base: 13.0 mm .30-06 Springfield (7.62×63mm) 1. Mag. Parent Case: .30-03 Springfield 2. I considered the 7mm remington mag, but then was told the .280 is basically the same caliber. This resulted in people confusing it with the 7 mm Remington Magnum , and Remington changed the name back to .280 in 1981. Parent Case: .375 H&H Magnum 2. In my mind, a hunting rifle should give you a lifetime of accurate use, unlike a competition rig where you expect to regularly wear out barrels. Then in 1962 Remington introduced the 7mm Rem. The 7x57mm Mauser—a cartridge that initially set the military world on its ear, and later became the darling of sportsmen around the globe—brought us a selection of bullets that were perfectly adaptable for hunting game animals from the common deer species up to the big cats, and during the ‘experimental phase’ of cartridge development, the pachyderms. In order to ensure reliable functioning they needed to keep the pressure down, so for quite a few years factory loads were purposefully mild and didn’t reflect the cartridge’s full potential. So although this seems very odd, Remington actually introduced the .280 Remington in their Model 740 semiautomatic, following with the Model 760 slide-action in this chambering. The .284/7mm cartridge clan has become second in numbers only to the .30 caliber cartridges in North America. The 7mm uses the 8400 action which is beefier. Die .280 Remington, auch bekannt als 7 mm Remington Express, wurde 1957 für die Gewehre von Remington Modelle 740, 760, 721 und 725 eingeführt. Mag. The .280 Remington retains the gradual taper and gentle shoulder of the .30-06, and even with the best loads will lag a bit behind the 7mm Remington Magnum. Although Remington had the best intentions, efforts to renew interest in this cartridge may well have backfired. The 280 AI is not the equal of a 7MM Rem Mag. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. There were a few instances of 7mm Express Remington (.280) cartridges being fired in 7mm Remington Magnum chambers. Today there are more and better factory loads to choose from, although nothing close to the selection available in more popular cartridges. Mag., which was a step up in power above the .280 although it produced more recoil and burned more powder. Ron Spomer. There is a wide array of 7mm contenders, from the effective … There were no factory 175 grain loads on the market at publication time, otherwise the.280 might have scored higher..280 Remington The 7mm Remington Magnum is capable of pushing 160-grain bullets to 3,000 and even 3,100 fps, which makes it an excellent choice for deer and antelope hunting. The 7mm Remington Magnum rifle cartridge was introduced as a commercially available round in 1962, along with the new Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle.It is a member of the belted magnum family that is directly derived from the venerable .375 H&H Magnum. ammunition gives it the definitive edge. Its beginnings provide a partial answer. It’s easy to see that the 7mm Remington Magnum has a huge following, having been commercially available for nearly 60 years, and it’s a good hunting cartridge. Something is telling me to keep the 29" as 7MM Mauser. the 7mm Remington Magnum is the most popular magnum cartridge in the world for a reason. Fred Huntington had done an earlier version with a 35-degree shoulder, but it is the Ackley version which has been adopted by SAAMI (Nosler submitted the design for approval), and may be the best of P.O. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). It is an accurate cartridge, and still ranks high in the sales figures of ammunition companies each year. It performs almost as well as the 7mm Rem. Handloaders can do a bit better, but today’s factory loads are fast enough and powerful enough to do anything that needs to be done with this cartridge. A further blow to the general acceptance of the .280 occurred after the release of the 7mm Remington Magnum in 1962, a cartridge which went on to become one of the most popular cartridges in American history. These last two remove the body taper, thus increasing powder capacity, and they are indeed every bit as fast as the 7mm Remington Magnum. As standard cartridges go, the .280 Remington has one of the oddest histories. Just ackleyize or RCBSize it (ask Kenny Jarrett about the .280 RCBS and be ready to get a lecture)and you'll never need a magnum rifle. I fully understand and accept its superb capabilities. Conceptually think of the 7mm Rem Mag as a … PS PS GANZ GANZ WICHTIG WICHTIG Möchte niemanden sein Gewehr Kaliber madig machen. I also got a 7Mm Remington magnum 26". I want a different caliber that is versatile for deer but can also be used for larger game. Wincehster not wanting to be left behind came out with a 7mm WSM which will eat a barrel even faster, but Remington recaptured the 7mm bore eroder title with the 7mm Rem Ultra Mag. Although it remains at its best as a cartridge for handloaders, today’s array of factory loads, though limited, are adequate for every purpose. The 280 Remington is overbore. A careful study of ballistics of both the.270 and.30-06 shows the.280 (7mm) as being superior to both. There different ways to look at it. Click ← go back to visit the previous page. The.280 Rem shoots a little slower, a little less flat, hits a little less hard, with a little less powder, with a little less recoil than the 7mm Rem Mag. vs. .300 Win. An argument in support of the 7mm Remington Magnum over the .280 would sound a lot like an argument supporting the 30-06 as significantly better than the .308. It is a handloader's cartridge. I will admit that I have never been a huge fan of this cartridge. Let’s face it, a hunter who owns a .270, .30-06, or 7mm Rem. Friday, May 3, 2019. Probably not, but it should appeal to those hunters looking for something in a non-belted case that’s different than the usual cast of characters (and doesn’t say Creedmoor) yet will handle all the same game species as the 7mm Remington Magnum. Lutz Möller 7 mm Rem. Both have been popular from their inceptions. It is quite easy to see that the 7mm Remington Magnum case is … Von der Leistung einer Patrone meint er in der 280 Rem Ackley Improved die Ideale Mittelpatrone gefunden zu haben. The .280 is an excellent choice! If I need more than the 7 STW I go to the .375 Weatherby. I traded my.30-06 years ago for a Ruger M77.280 Rem. .280 Rem vs. 7mm mag is for all intensive purposes the same debate as .308 vs. 30-06. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. It’s a great cartridge saddled with an unfortunate legacy. The 7mm Express Remington was nothing more, and nothing less, than the .280 Remington with updated factory loads. Rem Mag, and until recently the belief has always been bigger is better. The rifle was a Colt-Sauer, and it vented the hot gases down and out, with no injury to the shooter-but it was a sobering experience. Our Obsession with Greenheads Is Ruining Duck Hunting as We Know It. I use the 7 STW. Standard loads today include a 140-grain bullet at 3050 fps, 150-grain bullet at 2890 fps, and 165-grain bullet at 2820 fps. Remington’s “Seven Mag” … Are you getting an idea know what each one brings tot he table in terms bolt face, cartridge length and diameter, powder capacity, overall length etc??? Yes, I know, it sounds silly, but it happened. (25 at 4000) 8.5 With the current popularity of beltless cartridges, I think you’ll see the .280 Ackley Improved become a popular choice in the next decade, as more rifles and ammunition become available. The added advantage of less recoil than the 7mm Remington Magnum is icing on the cake, and it will easily take any North American game, given proper shot placement and load. Looking at it from a technical perspective, the .280 Ackley Improved is a much better design in that it runs on less powder, yet offers a performance level comparable to the 7 Mag. Mag. Looking at the velocity difference between the two cartridges, you’ll see the .280 Remington driving a140-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity between 2950 and 3050 fps, while the 7mm-08 Remington clocks in between 2800 and 2850 fps (Hornady’s Superformance being an exception at 2900 fps). Your email address will not be published. Definitely not 7mm Remington Magnum if that's what you're thinking of. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. The 280 used to be called the 7mm Express, but is now called the 280. The big difference is case capacity - about 67 grains for the .280 compared to about 83 for the 7mm RM. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bullets—just faster. I am having a hard time deciding on having it built in 280 rem or 300 win mag. Tha… 7mm mag fires the same weight bullets a couple hundred feet per second faster. They will also tell you that with good handloads the .280 will come within spitting distance of the 7mm Remington Magnum, in a shorter barrel, while burning a lot less powder. vs. 7mm Rem. Left to right: 7mm RSAUM, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 7mm STW, 7mm RUM. The 280 is basically a 7mm-06 if that helps you think about the cartridges potential. Base: 12.0 mm From the first look, there are no significant differences between 7mm Remington Magnum and .30-06 Springfield when it comes to profile. The .280 Ackley Improved is—you guessed it—the .280 Remington with the taper removed and the shoulder angle revised to 40 degrees. Although it was quickly adapted to bolt action rifles (first Remington’s Model 721, then others), savvy riflemen understood from the beginning that it was primarily a handloader’s cartridge. R. Royce. Just by luck of the draw I’ve mostly used it for deer, both whitetail and mule deer, and it’s a great deer cartridge. Goat and Black Bear with bo'fum (urban youth word for "both of them"!)! i think the .280 Rem' is probably the most underrated Big Game cartridge for North American hunting. Both, along with so many other .280 fans, will tell you that it is the best cartridge we have based on the .30-06 case. Re: 280 rem vs 7mm mag [Re: BobinNH] #3507740 11/24/09: Joined: Dec 2003. As the slow burning powders that allow a case this large weren’t available in 1912, the cartridge didn’t catch on. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. Privacy Policy • Contact Us • Warnings • FAQs • © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Remington Magnum, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. The .275 H&H Magnum, replete with the same belt that the .375 H&H wears, came onto the scene in the same year as the .375: 1912. Neither cartridge is a high pressure cartridge - the .280 Rem is rated for 60,000 psi MAP while the 7mm RM is at 61,000 psi. it doesn't get the press that it so rightly deserves. If you are torn between choosing a .270 Winchester or a .30-06, then the .280 might be exactly right for you. Bullet: 7.8 mm 4. Typically, a rifle magazine that can hold 4-5 .270 or .280 cartridges will only be able to hold 3 7mm Remington Magnum cartridges. It is a handloader's cartridge. in a package that gives additional room in the magazine (as the body diameter is smaller), and makes an excellent all-around choice. These last two remove the body taper, thus increasing powder capacity, and they are indeed every bit as fast as the 7mm Remington Magnum. It gave hunters a flat trajectory and a healthy amount of striking energy (well, maybe not so healthy for the recipients), even if it did have a considerable amount of both report and recoil. I’ve been spending some time with a new Savage rifle in .280 Ackley Improved, and have loaded and shot a whole bunch of 7mm Remington Magnum, and can attest to the fact that the .280 AI offers a significant reduction in recoil. The 280 gets you a lighter rifle and uses less powder to get close to 7mm velocities. The .280 Remington holds its own just fine with the new short 7mm magnums, and with good loads is very close to the 7mm Remington Magnum in performance. Mag. I have never hunted elk with the .280, but I surely would, especially with 160 or 165-grain bullets. You will see a four or five percent increase in case capacity between the standard .280 Remington and the Ackley Improved version, and that capacity increase will lead to a velocity boost of about 100 fps, sometimes a bit more. 7mm-08, 280, 7mm WBY, 7mm rem mag, 7mm ultra mag, all shoot .284 cal bullets. The .280 Remington deserves more respect. The unsupported case Head ruptured and ruined the gun by U.S. shooters and hunters, and Remington changed name. Wichtig Möchte niemanden sein Gewehr Kaliber madig machen 175 Bergers and @ 2850 fps ) majority the. Of America ’ s most astute riflemen whole lot of animals in the sales figures ammunition... 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