Re: .223 vs .243 please. Cracking round,devestating to mr fox!!!! .243 offers way more ammo choices for deer and a bit more energy for the marginal shot. Several of these experimenters necked up the .223 Remington to 6mm as the .243 inches (6.17 mm) caliber bullets provided better external ballistic performance over .224 inches (5.69 mm) caliber bullets. Also look at the switchable barrel rifles, maybe get a .223 that allows you to easily and cheaply create a .243 later? I'm going to buy a Remmie 700 VSF, I reckon. To me a centrefire is overkill for rabbits etc though some winged vermin its pretty handy. As John Galway says, people on here are not trying to sell yo anything. Carry weight, and a gun thats just fun to shoot at the range. × Your link has been automatically embedded. .243 thoughts, I all ready have a 243 in a pump, however another in a bolt gun wouldnt hurt. Flint Rock , Nov 24, 2009 Pelty's usual gun shop in Barnet, he's alot cheaper than my local. Assuming you have a rimmy of some sort, I'd get the .243 because it covers the Deer species better. my 1st kill was with a .243 n it killed it dead. That is my choice- TC Encore. .243 is a fine round. 223 vs 243 vs 270. by petemacsydney » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 pm Anybody got advice on 223 vs 243 vs 270? I am not a fan of 223 for deer. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. .223 is plenty for coyote, and kills paper just as dead as anything else. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. Local area here most go with a .243 for coy doggies over even a 22-250 just due to the afternoon wind factor. Not shooting normal loads anyway. The .223 is a great varmint round and is cheaper to shoot that the .243 for $5 a box for 20 223 rounds vs $30 for 20 243rds id take the 223 any day and just limit my shots to 250 and under. Bullet cost about the same, maybe a bit more for quality 243 bullets. I am not a fan of 223 for deer. 223 is cheaper. I've regularly shot muntjac with a .270, using Norma 130 grains. the jackals are about the same size as a coyote in here the U.S. and the springbok is about the size as a small deer here the 243 will be a flatter shooting and more fps.and more energy with a heavier slugs. Others are the 30-06, and the US 30 Gov are the same, the 308 and the 7.62x51mm are the same. "Agricultural" in that they are as solid as a rock, you feel you could drive a truck over them without damaging the scope. I worked up some reloads for the 300 Savage some 125 grain Hornady SST's because the weight of the Savage 99 recoil wasn't bad at all about like shooting my Marlin 30-30. Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. But, before we jump into the ballistics of the .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, and .243 Winchester, we should remember why anyone bothers hunting what is generally considered an inedible critter (even though some meat eaters are now imbibing.) that will add up to another £1000 quid with it dressed and the rest. Meat damage is not excessive if you place the shot correctly. Savage 22-250 and look no further. In non-pandemic times, the .223 Rem. From what i've read, the 22-250 is a step up from the 223 and the 243 is 2-3 steps up from the 22-250. From a cost effective standpoint for yotes and paper the .223 slaps the .243 in the face. sorry about that what I should have said is Legally you can and obviously there are a lot of people who shoot up to Red hinds with them ok a bigger caliber gives you more certainty. If you reload, hunting ammo is similar in cost for both rounds. I've owned and shot both as a varmint hunter. .243 is a better deer round than the .223. I would go for the .243 if I had to choose. 55 gn is the most common for everyone to buy but by no means do you have to shoot that weight. That is my choice- TC Encore. i bought a .223 and asked the same question and someone said you CAN kill with a .223 if u have a heavier grain bullet like a 65 or 70gr but where i come from the highest you can get off the shelf is a 55gr. .243 IMO is a bit heavy. 8 8. comments. Now a day they make so many different loads for the .243 it’s awesome. Ammo will cost more than .223. 223 vs 243 vs 270. Having said all that, it'd pick the 223. The .243 win isn't as affected by wind as the other two calibers. .223 Ballistics. As long as you use the correct bullet type (i.e. I'm not shooting varmint bullets so might be carrying a tad more energy downrange. Generally riles for the .223 caliber bullet rifles are comfortable to use and it enables you to shoot from a suitable angle. If you are choose whichever you prefer. I can't see myself shooting the bigger deer, but then again before I joined Pigeon Watch I certainly couldn't see myself getting a firearms licence & owning ferrets, where's it all gonna end. Soldiers with 223’s aren’t concerned with recovery of critically wounded targets. But when it comes to deer, why not just get a 30 caliber gun and call it a day. 223 is what I shoot the most of. If you are reloading, there is even less difference in price. 67 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3. The best all around varmint cartridge though is the .22-250. The .243 sends a bigger bullet down range and is a great long range flat shooting round in a small package capable and legal to shoot deer with. is the obvious winner. I think the .243 is pushing the limits on Fallow, with no margin for error. My bro in law lives in the states & comes over on business quite a bit, so what scope should he be bringing me? Performance varies with barrel length, but typical .223 ballistics with factory ammo are a 50gr bullet at 3,345fps (1,242 ft-lbs), a 55gr bullet at 3,240fps (1,282 ft-lbs), and a 62gr bullet at 3,100fps (1,323 ft-lbs)..308 Ballistics 1. Should I get a 223 or 243. I also reload. I'm not a .223 fan.. Other than being economical.. all thou a 223 would be a good one for your needs too and probably cheaper for you than the 243 . A deer culler can say after shooting a couple thousand animals that 223 is enough gun for deer and it is, but in inexperienced hands a few inches makes a difference. The 243 will do everything a 223 will do, and then some. Typical factory loaded, it can propel a 55 grain (3.56 g) spritzer bullet at 3.680 ft/s (1.122 m/s) with 1.654 ft-lbf (2.243 J) of energy, while many other loads with lighter bullets are used to achieve velocities of over 4.000 ft/s (1.219 m/s) and still having effective energy for use in … Under 600 yards, however, the .220 Swift is champ because of it's flat trajectory. isn’t uncomfortable, but compared to the .223 Rem., it’s snappy (depending on your rifle, of course). The 243 does sound pretty good sounds like I will get more milage out of it. (As a birthday pressie). Never assume that a low post … report. Well done on getting what you asked for SS. He said there's no such thing as an all round foxing / deer rifle, & proceeded to baffle me with ballistics & different grained bullets & I think his sway on things was if you was going out foxing you would have a different grained round to if you was going stalking, thus changing the zero of the rifle? We’ve reached the end of this interesting journey through some of the best .223 rifles that we could find to date. Personally I'd leave vermin to rimfire and go .243 then you have all bases and species covered if you decide to shoot deer other than muntjack. The .243 isn't readily available in the SS configuration I like, so I'm trying to decide if I should just pick up a SS in .223, or get the blued version (with the tan stock) in .243. I am about to put in for a variation on my FAC! The ideal bullet in .243 for fox shooting is the 62 Grain Varmint Grenade (powdered Tin Copper composite) or a heavier standard lead bullet where there is a nice flat trajectory with very little wind deflection. I’m sure a .243 or even the .223 will kill quickly with good bullet placement. Not enough crack for me. The best .223 rifle will be a versatile and capable firearm that will allow you to legitimately use it for plinking, target shooting, hunting and even for home defense if you are inclined to use a small caliber high powered rifle for home defense (see our notes about that a little lower in the article).. You can load a bit heavier for hunting predators or varminting and since most .223 rifles have that slower twist rate, shorter leade and tighter freebore, the .223 will likely be more accurate. Like you said, you want a dedicated coyote gun and a typical rifle platform is going to be just that, dedicated to hunting..223 can be either a typical rifle platform or you can build an AR platform rifle. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. I would say he has got your interest at heart but not fully aware of your situation.The thing is a .223 @1250 ft lbs doing 3250 FPS is just as lethal as .243 @2000 ftlbs doing 3500 fps .No way is shooting a smaller calibre going to be more forgiving but such is the choice of ammo in .243 that there is a very high chance you can develop a small round for fox and the smaller Deer species .Let's face it you'll either shooting one or the other and it's only a matter of noting the clicks moved on scope adjustment when shooting the heavier SP round . Should I get a 223 or 243. Every bit as good. hide. Entry level 223 ammo is also heaps cheaper. You can post now and register later. I have never shot that light of a bullet in my 223. Your .223 will only collect dust if you get both I feel. Better to have more and not use it,than to want more and not have it available. There seems to be this myth always leading to a 55 gn bullet.. Mate i reckon go for the 223. from what I've heard and seen in pictures, coyotes around NY tend to be bigger than coyotes in most other areas of the country. The 22-250 is a great round as is the 243, the 223 just doesn't do it for me. Unfortunately they had just sold there last Tikka, I would stick with the PW advice so far, and go for the .243. $250 plus some scope mounts/rings. My .243 belted me because of the weight of the rifle so if I tame it down a bit it will also work!! when choosing guns, you have to pick the gun that will suit what you are doing most, not the gun that will do everything. If you aren't keeping pelts, the 243 puts coyotes down harder. What I forgot to mention in my previous post was I am restricted to being accompanied by an experienced stalker for deer. By What guns do you have already? The very knowledgeable owner of the shop asked me a few questions, what I'd be intending to shoot etc... And he advised me to go with the .223 as its being cleared for CWD & Muntjac in October. .243 atleast if you ever fancy a go at roe,fallow youll have the kit already,youll be supprised how tough little muntys are not saying a 223 struggles to drop them i just like to have a do everything rifle would be very frustrating being out and only be able to take muntys when for a sake of a slightly bigger caliber you could stalk all legally 223 vs 243 Winchester - Size Comparison. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The 223 is more than capable of yotes past 500 yards with ease. He had a vast armoury of stock & there was a nice new Titan 3 what are these like any good? i have the 4-14x50 ill mp8. You cannot paste images directly. share. Pasted as rich text. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. The 223 or even 243 in most cases don’t kill as quickly and in almost all cases doesn’t leave the blood trail that a larger caliber dies. The 5.56 is simply the military designation for the 223! all this depends on what bullet weight your shooting but 22-250 will out shoot a 223 and be knocking on the back door of the 243. $250 plus some scope mounts/rings. Ok there I was in the gun shop packed wallet in hand with the intention of getting a .243 Tikka T3 synthetic stock / stainless barrel. .243 could be used for,Paper targets, Coyotes, Deer. It's cheaper than the .243, too. The .243 will hold velocity and retain accuracy further than any of the.22s. The reasons are … As we said, there’s a mixed bag here, and we think all these models deserve attention and consideration. I have never owned .223, but have .222, and if ever I am going foxing I always pick up the .243, it is one of the most versatile rounds, I disagree with the statement made by al4x by the way, about "you can do all species of deer ", personally I always pick. Even though there is a price diff in ammo between .223 & .243 you are not going to be spraying bullets around all the time so cost isn't realy a factor, as it will take a lot of shoots to mount up to the same as buying 2 rifles if you later go for a .308 for Fallow and Reds. If you aren't keeping pelts, the 243 puts coyotes down harder. groundhogs yeah cause 98% you hit the ground but coyote you send that clean through it and into the woods or fields still doing 2k fps with the 243. produces about half the felt recoil of the .243 Win. The 243 has a wider range of bullet weights allowing for use on varmints or medium size game animals. 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